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The Playstation Network Has Been Hacked

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/226128/sony_makes_it_official_playstation...

They've gone too far this time. The Pentagon is one thing but hacking the PSN?

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I don't really get "the fun of hacking"...but I don't find being destructive fun, useful or entertaining...

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I don't get it either. I was looking forward to renting SOCOM 4 this weekend.

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I don't condone destructive hacking myself, but I'm curious to see who might take the credit for it. Anon has said previously that while they had entertained plans of hacking the network, I think everyone is surprised to see them deny this is their work. Which I think I would trust. Anon is trying to make a statement to Sony, they don't want to hurt the gamers.

I find Anon themselves to be a fascinating idea. Sure, they're most often equated with the idea of kids harrasing people on the internet and causing senseless trouble, but when they want to organize for a cause they want to champion, they do get the attention of the world and they do make a statement. They have the potential both for amazing good and terrifying evil. The concept of "Hacktivism" will likely have a very profound effect on how we see protest work change in the next few years.

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I think hackers, just like graffiti 'artists', should have their asses beaten.

Or, at least, cut their allowance for a few weeks.

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The problem with hacktivism is it generally doesn't simply hurt companies-it hurts regular citizens who are using their product or services. It would be easier for me to take if they were simply focused on the companies.

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Well what sort of activism would you prefer? Protests often inconvenience people - Make them late for work, make buildings and such off limits, cost tax payer money. petitions are largely ineffective. Riots are dangerous and destructive. Consumers who "vote with their wallet" are few and far between because most people are lazy and can't be bothered, so those who do make the effort don't make a dent in the company's pocket. Where I am, the people are typically held hostage by whatever the government wants to push on us so where are people supposed to turn to when they need to be heard?

People were inconvenienced by Rosa Parks. She didn't just bother the bus company, she bothered a lot of people.

- Thomwade I think you missed my point about anon - They made the effort to not go through with their idea because it would have affected the consumer too greatly. Other actions they have taken -have- just harassed the company and not the people. Sure their slate isn't clean, but we're reaching a point where typical methods of activism are falling weak. Personally, if something is going to be a minor annoyance to me in order for a greater message to be made, so be it. Sony isn't listening to anyone else right now and crossing all sorts of privacy lines and they get away with it because no one seems to care to stop them.

The truth is, hacktivism happens but it doesn't get as much press unless there is some reason to villianize them for what they're doing. There isn't many media outlets that want to paint what these guys are doing in a good light but there are many white hats out there.

Not all hackers are bad. There are varying degrees of hacker and lumping them all into one group is wildly incorrect.

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MinervaLi wrote:

Well what sort of activism would you prefer? Protests often inconvenience people - Make them late for work, make buildings and such off limits, cost tax payer money. petitions are largely ineffective. Riots are dangerous and destructive. Consumers who "vote with their wallet" are few and far between because most people are lazy and can't be bothered, so those who do make the effort don't make a dent in the company's pocket. Where I am, the people are typically held hostage by whatever the government wants to push on us so where are people supposed to turn to when they need to be heard?

People were inconvenienced by Rosa Parks. She didn't just bother the bus company, she bothered a lot of people.

I would disagree that compromising user info and accessing credit card numbers is merely inconveniencing the consumer. I appreciate Anon would just go after inconveniencing the company...but the hacking of the Playstation network looks like it was far more vicious. (And, to be fair, Anon apparently would not have pulled such a stunt according to what you have pointed out)

There are many things I want changed-I don't need hackers wrecking my bank to do that. I struggle to get by paycheck to paycheck. I do not need hackers grabbing my info to do who knows what with it because they want to stick it to "the Man". (Maybe when I wake up one morning and find I am a millionaire thanks to some creative hacker I will feel more generous :crown: )

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Yes i agree, this doesn't look like Hacktivism, this looks like a crude assault. I've never said all hacking was good, I'm mearly saying that Hacktivists have a great potential for social change, as well as a great potential for some serious damage.

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They got credit card information and the PSN will be down for another week.

All hackers should be strung up by their balls, have their eyes gouged out with sporks and have their hands cut off and shoved up their asses before sowing them shut.

There's no such thing as a good intentioned hacker.

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In junior high, back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth, I actually got stuck in a typewriting class elective. It was taught on ancient manual typewriters - it took about a pound of pressure to get any particular key to strike.

Anyway, the teacher, for the time, was fancy - she actually had a small monotone green computer, and she used it to keep our grades on. We could login to see our scores, "read only", while her account could edit and add grades.

So, well, one day - I hacked into this monotone green computer under her account. Her password? It was "password". I remember all the other kids thought I was some sort of brilliant computer hacker for figuring this out.

I told the teacher though. Immediately. I was a goody-two-shoes.

Not all hackers are bad!

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Eh, you probably don't need your eyes for much. I've seen your girlfriend.

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They're still attacking Sony. Sony must have people that are smart enough to track these assholes down so they can be thrown into a Turkish prison.

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Thank goodness I have an Xbox 360 so I can still access Netflix. Apparently, Microsoft are the good guys. Wink

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Haha, yeah their online services work great, it's just the hardware that sucks.

Call of Duty expansion comes out next week. Romero inspired zombie map.

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