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I know many of you are probably not up on college football, but this has gone way beyond sports. I've been keeping up with the case, and it just becomes more disgusting and insane the deeper you dig. Even though not all of this is proven yet in a court of law, you can't read the grand jury report and come to the conclusion that nothing horrible happened.

Basically, Jerry Sandusky was the second most important person (defensive co-ordinator) in one of the biggest college sports programs in the country (Penn State football) back in 1998. He coerced an 11-year-old boy into showering with him (on campus), and this included inappropriate touching. The boy's mother suspected something, so she contacted campus police. Sandusky admitted that the incident was true to both the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare and to the campus police, but no charges were filed. Incredibly, the only action against Sandusky that was taken was that a campus detective "advised Sandusky not to shower with boys on campus again".

Sandusky would retire early the next year under suspicious circumstances, suggesting that this incident was the reason, even though the head coach (Joe Paterno) and the athletic director (Tim Curly) said they didn't know about the incident. Sandusky continued his association with the football program, even having keys to all of the facilities and being at practice, etc. Sandusky was now devoted to his charity "The Second Mile", which assists underprivileged boys in the state of Pennsylvania. and the charity was also associated with the football program (the kids could attend games and practices, etc.).

Basically, Sandusky used his charity as a farm system for child rape, including about 40 counts in the current indictment, and there have been at least another 10-12 victims that have come forward in the last couple weeks. All told, The Second Mile served nearly 40,000 boys since its inception, so the number of victims is only going to increase, with the majority of victims probably being too ashamed to even come forward. The rape label is applied not merely because of their age; he used every tactic to have unwanted sex with these boys, short of violent force. There are now rumors being investigated that several of the wealthiest donors were giving to the charity so that Sandusky could supply them with boys to rape.

Amazingly, many people in the program knew about this to some degree and did nothing to stop it, including the now wide receiver coach and Joe Paterno and the athletic director and the head of campus police and possibly many more. People covered it up to avoid hurting the program and hurting their careers. Sandusky was an honored friend of the program and had access to the facilities up until two weeks ago. Penn State football is very insular and very lucrative, and they were allowed to police themselves, and this is what happens.

Another disturbing thing I've noticed is that many Penn State football fans get angry when it is suggested that anyone but Sandusky did something wrong, or that there is a structural and cultural problem with the program. Just go visit a Penn State football forum, where fans suggest that ESPN is putting some blame upon Paterno just because they hate Penn State football. Several of these fans rioted when it was announced that Paterno was fired. They defend the team come hell or high water, whether a game or systematic child rape. Like the Catholic church harboring child rapists, Paterno was the pope, the football program was the church, and most of the followers will turn a blind eye to anything.

Here is a summary and a copy of the grand Jury report. The actual report is one of the creepiest things you'll ever read, especially the account of the last victim. On top of this indictment, there are many more victim charges on the horizon, and civil lawsuits, and the National Board of Education is getting involved. Other states are beginning to get involved since he took several victims out of state to attend football games, and this interstate factor will hopefully inspire the Feds to get involved. Of course, the NCAA has done nothing so far, probably because of the amount of money that is at stake, but possibly because they have no protocol for this kind of thing. Meanwhile, Sandusky is out on an unsecured $100,000 bail due to his "good standing in the community", which means that his bail is waived if he shows up to court on time. He has been seen out and about with his wife not far from campus, wearing Penn State gear. What a fucking piece of shit, and what a diseased system to allow this to happen.

Sorry, I needed to vent. Let the fun around here resume. Wink

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Now it's come out that the judge who gave Sandusky an unsecured $100k bail was a volunteer and donor to his charity. Also, most of the money that the charity received went to salaries. And during the game on Saturday, there was a guy protesting game with a sign that read "Put the children first" or something like that, and he was sworn at and had stuff thrown at him and beer poured on him. It gets shadier every day.

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Think of the football is the new defense...

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Thomwade wrote:

Think of the football is the new defense...

It wouldn't surprise me that part of the defense will be that the football program is good for the local economy. I'm serious.

If the trial reveals that the most of the coaches and administrators were responsible for covering this up, and the NCAA decides to dock PSU some football scholarships, there will be riots.

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Thomas Duke wrote:
Thomwade wrote:

Think of the football is the new defense...

It wouldn't surprise me that part of the defense will be that the football program is good for the local economy. I'm serious.

If the trial reveals that the most of the coaches and administrators were responsible for covering this up, and the NCAA decides to dock PSU some football scholarships, there will be riots.

If the NCAA does dock PSU football scholarships, I'd have to support the riots. But ONLY because it's punishing the players of Penn State, both current and future, and not one player has been accused of any wrongdoing in this situation at this time.

Yes, if most of the coaches and administrators were part of the cover up, punish them directly. The NCAA could bar them from working as part of a college coaching staff, or the school could be punished by not being allowed to earn any profits from televised events and sports related merchandise.

But pulling scholarships only hurts people who aren't directly involved in the cover up. And while the student body acted rather dickishly over the weekend, it's no reason to punish them. Let Penn State keep it's team and let the players keep their scholarships. Instead, someone needs to punish the people who allowed a pedophile to keep raping young boys with fines, jail time or just canning their ass and preventing them from ever working for another college athletic team again. I don't care if it's the NCAA or the cops, but other colleges need to see that they will face repercussions if they decide to protect the program/college rather than a sexual assault victim.

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This is sick, sad and truly heartbreaking; those poor boys will always be damaged. We can only hope that they get the help and the healing they need.

I understand that there was a riot on campus when Paterno was fired. I feel more like rioting on behalf of the alleged victims.

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Chris McMillan wrote:

If the NCAA does dock PSU football scholarships, I'd have to support the riots. But ONLY because it's punishing the players of Penn State, both current and future, and not one player has been accused of any wrongdoing in this situation at this time.

By "docking scholarships", I don't mean taking paid education away from football players. I mean taking away potential scholarships. Basically, it would only theoritcally make the team worse. Or they could make them inelligible for bowl games for 5 years or something. You could say that's punishing innocent players, but only in the sense of playing football games. Programs are often penalized after the fact, even though the offending players are no longer on the team (like Reggie Bush). The point is, I think the NCAA should do something at some point that penalizes the program, so that the system that allowed this is corrected some how, of at least it sends the message that revering the program and letting them police themselves is part of the problem. I don't think they will though.

If the same culture and system is in place after the people responsible are weeded out, what's to prevent a criminal cover up in the future when the football program is still all important and all powerful and lacking in checks and balances?

Bob Costas interviewed Sandusky and his lawyer (who impregnated a 16 year old client when he was 49), and it was truly amazing. Costas was incredulous in spots, as the lawyer predicted that several of the boys are going to come forward and say that they lied to the grand jury, as if they are working on payoffs or threats as we speak. And read this exchange (courtesy of NY daily news):

Costas: "But you're a man who by his own admission has showered with young boys, highly inappropriate. Who has continually put himself in the presence of young boys, volunteer high school coach, volunteer at a small local college, even after -- you were largely disassociated from Penn State. Multiple reports of you getting into bed with young boys who stayed at your house in a room in the basement. How do you account for these things? And if you're not a pedophile, then what are you?"

Sandusky: "Well I'm a person that has taken a strong interest. I'm a very passionate person in terms of trying to make a difference in the lives of some young people. I worked very hard to try to connect with them. To make them feel good about themselves. To -- be something significant in their lives. Maybe this gets misinterpreted, has gotten depending on -- I know a lot of young people where it hasn't. I have worked with many, many young people where there has been no misinterpretation of my actions and I have made a very significant difference in their lives."

Costas: "But isn't what you're just describing the classic MO of many pedophiles? And that is that they gain the trust of young people, they don't necessarily abuse every young person. There were hundreds, if not thousands of young boys you came into contact with, but there are allegations that at least eight of them were victimized. Many people believe there are more to come. So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D, and E. Isn't that possible?"

Sandusky: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would-- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and-- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have-- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

Costas: Are you sexually attracted to young boys?
Sandusky: Am I sexually attracted to underage boys?
Costas: Yes.
Sandusky: ..... Sexually attracted. You know, no. I enjoy young people. I love to be around them. I love to be around them... um. I... I, but no, I’m not sexually attracted to young boys.

This is a pre-trial interview, mind you, presumably coached by his lawyer. They must think they're invincible, that Sandusky's Penn State ties will eventually bail him out of the situation.

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Thomas, I agree with your opinion that the school has to be punished. No, I have to say the school administration needs to be punished. I really feel an example needs to be made of the program, so others schools will know that, to quote Jon Stewart, "You stop the guy and call the cops, or you call the cops to stop the guy. Either way, it involves calling the cops."

Personally, I like my third option: Smack the guy in the head, thus stopping the crime (and hit him a few more times to make sure he won't get away), then call the cops. Sure, admit to hitting him, but you can always plea self defense and defense of the victim. >)

My problem is the students are always the ones to suffer for an administration's crimes/moral lacking. I'd like to see everyone involved in covering up this crime booted out of Penn State AND barred from working at ANY school ever again, as they've shown they put their institution ahead of protecting kids.

Pulling scholarships affects the students too much for me. The players who might not get into school because it's one less college for them to play in, the general student body who will be deprived of a sport they love. No, let the students play and watch the game. Just make sure the money brought in by television broadcasts and merchandise sales are forfeited to a charity for the protection of sexually abused children.

Yea, the school will likely slack off, not put as much effort into a winning team or to sell the shirts, hoodies and such that rake in a lot of cash. At that point, the NCAA should start yanking scholarships. Of course, it should be stipulated in advance that any dip in acquiring talent or promoting merchandising would inflict this penalty and the term made public, so everyone realize the school administration hasn't learned their lesson and the school is to blame for the loss of their team.

Of course, I know it would never work out that way. Hell, we can't even figure out how to regulate banks and prevent another economic disaster.

Still, I can dream....

PS: Sandusky sounds like he's running the Michael Jackson defense. Oh, I'm passionate about young boys, I want to help them. Oh, my desire to help them develop has been misinterpreted by people. Fuck you, Sandusky!

Okay, I know it's petty, I know it's not the right thing to think and I know I'll burn in hell for thinking it, but I hope the first words from his cellmate are "You sure have a purty mouth."

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Chris McMillan wrote:

My problem is the students are always the ones to suffer for an administration's crimes/moral lacking. I'd like to see everyone involved in covering up this crime booted out of Penn State AND barred from working at ANY school ever again, as they've shown they put their institution ahead of protecting kids.

I just think they need to do SOMETHING, and I'm not sure how far their power reaches. I just threw that scholarship thing out there cause I know that's happened in the past. I don't know if they can actually ban teachers/administrators for life.

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I'm not sure either. But if they can't, then something needs to change.

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Penn State is huge here, and what happened is always big news.

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Well, Sandusky's lawyer Joseph Amendola (who, remember, impregnated a 16 year old client) gave a speech in front of a courthouse after they waived their right to a preliminary hearing. He suggested that the victims (now up to 10) are falsely accusing Sandusky in order to come after his money. And this happened:

from the Chicago Sun Times
Amendola, during his lengthy comments to reporters outside the courthouse, said that if former Penn State graduate assistant Mike McQueary had witnessed a 10-year-old boy being sexually assaulted in a campus shower and had told the head football coach, the athletic director, a university vice president and the university president and “their response was simply to tell Jerry Sandusky that ‘Don’t go into the shower anymore with kids,’ I suggest you dial 1-800-REALITY because that makes absolutely no sense.”

As it turns out, 1-800-REALITY is actually a gay phone sex line.

Then there's this:

USA Today

As to why Sandusky seems to have a habit of showering with boys in the nude:

"Some of these kids don't have basic hygiene skills," attorney Karl Rominger, who recently joined Sandusky's defense team, told Harrisburg's abc27 News Tuesday. "Teaching a person to shower at the age of 12 or 14 sounds strange to some people, but people who work with troubled youth will tell you there are a lot of juvenile delinquents and people who are dependent who have to be taught basic life skills, like how to put soap on their body."

Genius. I'm waiting for one of the accusers to take the stand, and Sandusky's lawyer asking him "well, you say you were raped when you were 12, but let me ask you this...are you a member of the Nazi party? ANSWER THE QUESTION!"

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Okay, Sandusky's defense team have all boarded the crazy train and taken it to places undreamed off by mere mortals.

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Another accuser has filed a civil suit. He was 12 at the time, and Sandusky allegedly got him drunk in a PSU football office before raping him. Classy. This was in 2004, by which point Sandusky was supposed to have had his keys to the campus already revoked (his punishment for raping boys on campus), and he was only "affiliated" with the school at the time through his charity, and not technically employed by the school (I think).

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/30/teen-accuses-ex-penn-state-coach-sandusky-raping-him-on-campus/

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What I don't understand was why an assistant coach, who partially saw Sandusky in the shower with a boy, just tell the police after he told Paterno about it.

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Eddie_the_Head wrote:

What I don't understand was why an assistant coach, who partially saw Sandusky in the shower with a boy, just tell the police after he told Paterno about it.

The coach (McQuearey) swore under testimony that he saw Sandusky having anal sex with the boy and then was around the guy many times for the next 8-9 years. It was obvious nothing was being done about it from the school officials and campus police, yet he never went to the real police the entire time. Presumably, he wanted to protect his job (and maybe the school), but more will come out in the trial I guess.

It should be noted that McQuearey claimed in a mass email that he did contact campus police and not just Paterno, but the point remains even if that's true. He knew nothing was being done for years, so he should have contacted the real police or the FBI.

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