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Netflix, We Hardly Knew Ye

You know who Netflix is, right? Sure you do. They’re that company that gives you a reason to check your mail every once in a while. But guess what — that’s not who they are at all.

According to CEO Reed Hastings, Netflix is, in fact, "a streaming company, which also offers DVDs-by-mail." Oh, and if you still actually want to receive those old-fashioned discs — you know, the ones that don’t depend on your often shaky internet connection (thanks, Comcast) — you’ll now have to pay more for the pleasure…or trouble (word choice depending on whether you’re a Netflix stockholder).

Netflix has been heading this way for several months. They’ve entered into numerous deals with movie studios and distributors, who have provided large amounts of streaming content (mostly TV shows and back-catalogue films) contingent on Netflix delaying rental of new releases for a month. This plan was devised to stimulate DVD sales, but it probably just increased the chances of piracy. And now, these same DVDs that the studios and Netflix have teamed to con you into buying are being phased out by the very company that agreed to the deals to improve their sale. Wait, can that be right? Huh. Yep, that’s it. Ah, you have to love the corporate mind.

It’s a great deal for Netflix. They are headed toward paying less postage and needing less warehouse space — and probably fewer employees as well. Gosh, I remember when Uncle Netflix wanted to be my buddy by saving me from those wretched trips to the video store and the inevitable late fees. Now he feels more like the friend that offers to let you use his car to drive to the video store…if you fill up the tank and buy some beer and pizza on the way back — ooh, and how about some Twizzlers too? You know, since you’re going to be out already.

And what about those increased charges? You’ll now pay from $3 to $8 more each month for the three-or-more-DVD plans, and $1 more each month for the one- and two-DVD plans. But hey, you’ll have unlimited access to Watch Instantly selections. The price of the limited plan, which allows only one DVD at a time, will not change. Does anyone even use that plan? If so, you may be the big winner here.

Granted, streaming on-demand content is the future, and Netflix can’t be faulted for wanting to be its provider of choice. But why do I feel like I’m being forced into the whole thing?


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This is what the people wanted. It all started with Napster and downloading music. From the inception of Napster I've been crying fowl and telling people that the internet was going to destroy the economy. I hate being right all the time. All the digital suckers out there who somehow convinced themselves that MP3's were somehow good and quality substitute to actual quality have made their bed and now they gotta lie in it. Perhaps it was inevitable but it all happened way too fast for me seeing as how I fear change at any rate. Record stores are a faded memory and I have to tell my children about them as if it were a fairy tale and now you can hardly buy any movie releases the old fashioned brick and mortar way. Soon all music and movie collections will exist only on hard drives or maybe in a case at the Smithsonian. Collector's Editions for geeks like me will be a thing of the past. I'm streaming now. I don't like it but I have no choice.

Digital media makes me cranky. |(

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My music collection exists entirely in digital backup. I don't even know if it is available in other "formats". Did they ever put music in disc format, like Blu-Ray?

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It makes me cranky too. I didn't even get into the often inferior image and audio quality of the streaming movies. Or that you have to buy another piece of hardware, be it a new DVD player or video game console or whatever. Meh. Get off my digital lawn.

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HD-Audio was truly amazing. It was rough at first when engineers didn't really know what to do with it but it didn't take them long to figure it out. Music has never sounded better to me. Of course there was the argument about whether it was more natural to listen to music in stereo or 5.1 but when some of the latter mixes came out it was pretty clear to me what the answer to that was. Vinyl is still my favorite. I don't have a single MP3 anywhere except for the ones that came installed on the PC and game consoles.

It's kind of like people saying they don't want to see movies in HD. And now 3D. I say I fear change but I guess I love advancements in technology but dislike the obsolescence of the physical formats. Yeah, that's it!

I agree the quality of streaming is sub-par. Maybe someday I'll be able to afford to have a T1 installed at my house.

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You know...I have Comcast and I rarely have flaky video... About 95% of the time I get no pix-elation or delay...and I don't tend to have any problem with HD streaming movies either. I AM AWESOME. Wink

But seriously, I mention this because on my parent's HD TV, streaming looks sub-par, my sister and her husband have the same issue.

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The other thing that bugs me is that the studios are now providing Blu-Rays to Netflix with NO special features.

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I can't complain, and I figure that streaming will get better. So will the selection. Also, I think the price of Netflix's plans for DVDs have decreased up to this point (due to mostly to competition) while First Class Postage has gone up.

I expect Netflix's management is terrified of becoming the next Blockbuster, thus, they do whatever they think they must to stay the most advanced (beyond Hulu, Amazon, Redbox etc.). The business of watching movies at home seems to go in ten year cycles since the introduction of the VCR. Mom & Pop video stores --> Blockbuster --> Netflix DVDs --> Netflix (?) Streaming. As more movies become available for streaming, Netflix will want to be able to drop its DVD service ASAP, so it doesn't become an albatross around its neck like Blockbuster's stores did to it.

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Thomwade wrote:

The other thing that bugs me is that the studios are now providing Blu-Rays to Netflix with NO special features.

That is maddening. I was dying to watch the 15 hour making of featurette on The Lovely Bones 'cause the movie is pretty amazing but the only way to get it is to buy it which I'll do at some point but dammit I was only able to rent it at the time. I rent from Family Video because the store manager is super sexy and she likes me. Also because I hate the internet.

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While the picture quality from Netflix Streaming is okay (the DVDs are better), my biggest complaint is the continual breaks to rebuffer. It's especially bad during the early evenings and weekends. If they can't fix that problem, I'll be done with them once they go to streaming only.

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Netflix streaming quality can be pretty bad--it's even more obvious when you have a nice TV--but I don't really complain. The streaming movies and tv shows kept me from needing cable for YEARS. I only got cable recently because...well, I don't know why.

Netflix just offered a package where you don't even get DVDs, just the instant streaming, for $8 a month. I signed up, since I haven't rented a DVD from them in 3 months. I got Dead Snow in August, and I still haven't mailed it back LOL. Not because I like it or anything, but because I keep forgetting, and everything I want to watch is on streaming. They had more eveyr day, too.

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Dead Snow is awesome Ash! Happy

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asharceneaux wrote:

Netflix just offered a package where you don't even get DVDs, just the instant streaming, for $8 a month. I signed up, since I haven't rented a DVD from them in 3 months. I got Dead Snow in August, and I still haven't mailed it back LOL.

I have a good friend that hasn't returned his single Netflix DVD in well over a year (maybe approaching 2). I've asked him why not, and he says "Because then they'd send me another one!"

He just watches everything on streaming and doesn't care about the DVDs.

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I was pissed that I somehow got sent the first disc of Spartacus but I'm not returning it. I don't want any more. It reminds me of Columbia House. Anybody ever sign up for that? I did, I thought it was great until they started sending me crappy cd's at $30 a pop.

What I don't get is my buddy streams from the Xbox 360 and says most or all of the movies are in HD. I stream from the PS3 and they look like they came in and jammed a VHS tape in there after recording the show overnight. I can see no option for HD.

The first season of Spartacus is $20 at Best Buy this weekend. On DVD of course but who buys DVD's?

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Pffft - yeah, I just checked my plan and saw that they were increasing my account to $24 a month after the 30th. That's a three DVD plan (19.99) with +4 dollars for Blu-ray access.

I dumped the blu-ray access and dropped it to 2 DVDs. I may humor going down to one.

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Tristan Sinns wrote:

Pffft - yeah, I just checked my plan and saw that they were increasing my account to $24 a month after the 30th. That's a three DVD plan (19.99) with +4 dollars for Blu-ray access.

I dumped the blu-ray access and dropped it to 2 DVDs. I may humor going down to one.

I opted for the same plan. I pay little less...for a little less. It's not that I object to where Netflix is going with streaming on-demand viewing. This is the first big step toward the goal I've been dreaming about since I was a little movie geek: The ability to watch any movie I want, anytime I want it. My problem is with how it's all being handled.

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Best Buy has a streaming/on demand service now too that I want to learn more about. I haven't had Netflix long and have used it even less. I'm conflicted. On one hand I hate the idea of physical formats going away. On the other I had a massive DVD collection of over 3,000, 90% horror, and am not interested in doing that again. I even had movies as bad as Raiders of the Living Dead in my collection but for awhile my goal was to have the largest horror DVD collection in North America. Seriously. Of course I don't have money now but having lived in poverty for the last couple of years has taught me a lot about the meaninglessness of the materialistic lifestyle. I could have used that money to make a movie which is something I've always wanted to do.

I'm just a walking/talking contradiction these days.

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Robert A. Newberry wrote:

I'm just a walking/talking contradiction these days.

The human condition, my friend. I have a few hundred DVDs and even more CDs, hence major storage issues. I switched to Netflix rather than buy any more movies. I only buy on rare occasions any more.

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Tristan Sinns wrote:

I may humor going down to one.

That's the plan I'm on and it works really well with the Streaming. Often, I hold onto the DVD longer than I should because the new Watch Instantly films are too tantalizing to not watch. Even though Netflix is jacking up my rate by a buck, it's not that bad an increase for what I get. And if nothing's on Netflix, I still have Hulu and Fear.net for movies (though those venues have commercials, but they don't edit the films).

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Everybody complaining about quality: it's your Internet connection.. I stream on both a comcast home connection and a virgin mobile mifi. Quality at home is stunning HD that rivals most comcast on demand content.(played on netflix compatible wifi blueray player from samsung) the mobile router varies greatly by signal strength. Goes anywhere from HD to barely working/always buffering. On my home setup, a movie loads in seconds after hitting play and plays without a hiccup. It was pretty amazing the first time..

Those of you have comcast at home but poor streaming on your laptop? Your computer has a Trojan (or
Any computer connected to your network) your neighbor is
Stealing service, too many wifi routers nearby on same channel, you have too many devices connected, your computer is too slow, etc etc..

If you enjoy the netflix stream consider a dedicated box.. Plus it frees up your laptop for surfing up facts / trivia about what you're watching..

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I'm not so much complaining about streaming quality at this point because I have Sprint 4G wifi. I'm having the middle grade Comcast installed Tuesday. Was supposed to be done today but I'm sick and couldn't chop some brambles down for the installation guy.

The video quality I am seeing is horrendous. Not to mention 3/4 of the movies available to stream aren't even worth watching especially the horror and sci-fi. I can find better movies at Family Video and they cost $1. I am not impressed so far at all. I have no idea what my buddy is even talking about, I haven't seen a single HD movie. I'm honestly confused and thinking maybe it has something to do with the PS3 and how Netflix works on it. No idea.

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Robert A. Newberry wrote:

Best Buy has a streaming/on demand service now too that I want to learn more about.

It's not very good. You have to rent the movie-pricing is about on par with video store rentals. That is, if the film is available for rental. Many of the films arent and you have to buy them...and they are about $20.

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I have the fastest cable DSL internet connection available. I also have a 52" flat screen HD tv. When I get an HD video from Amazon.com, the quality is great. Netflix streaming, however, is craptastic. I don't use my computer to watch.

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Wutupyall wrote:

Everybody complaining about quality: it's your Internet connection..

I think this is often true, but it's not the only thing that can do it. Some Netflix films/shows just look better than others, and are streamed at higher resolutions. I remember watching some of the Arrested Development shows for example, and they looked *great*. Some other films though - sometimes not so much.

Most of the time though, it does look pretty good.

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Thomwade wrote:
Robert A. Newberry wrote:

Best Buy has a streaming/on demand service now too that I want to learn more about.

It's not very good. You have to rent the movie-pricing is about on par with video store rentals. That is, if the film is available for rental. Many of the films arent and you have to buy them...and they are about $20.

That sounds pretty pointless.

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