If you're not aware of the name Jim Van Bebber, you're unfortunately probably not aware that he directed and starred in the cult classic Deadbeat at Dawn (1988), a Peckinpah-esque white trash biker action flick filmed in the armpit of Dayton, Ohio (although in fairness, it appears that all of Dayton may qualify as an "armpit" based on the visual evidence presented in the film). I have seen many many biker films, and Deadbeat at Dawn might be my favorite (yes, I'd take it over Easy Rider and maybe even Wild Hogs). He also directed the well received although eternally-in-production Chuck Manson movie The Manson Family (2003), and a bunch of awesome shorts and music videos (like that amazing video for that Skinny Puppy song that I forget the name of).
Anyway, he is finally working on a new full length feature titled Scales, which, according to Van Bebber is "a thriller about a Veteran who returns from the war to take over the operation of an alligator farm in Florida...much madness, mayhem and murder ensues". That vaguely sounds like a cross between Tobe Hooper's Eaten Alive and maybe John Flynn's Rolling Thunder, and I for one think that would be a perfect fit for Van Bebber; a forgotten American "dirtbag" swept under the rug and exploding forth in an orgy of visceral cinematic exploitation. Maybe that's a hefty extrapolation based on the poster, which shows a naked chick being eaten by a crocodile, but pointing out elusive subtext based on scant evidence is why I get paid the "big bucks" (by which I mean the occasional screener).
Van Bebber is currently trying to get funding for a promotional short version of Scales through Kickstarter HERE. Click on the link for more info on the movie and the Kickstarter fund. I would seriously consider donating, but I don't have two nickels to rub together. However, it costs me nothing to share this clip from Deadbeat at Dawn, where "Bonecrusher" gives a nihilistic speech on a rooftop (in fairness, all rooftop speeches involve either nihilism or criminal behavior). Maybe my heart is blacker than Dolemite's Caddy, but I find this speech strangely inspirational. If I ever run for office (unlikely, 'cause that costs money), this will be my opening remarks on the campaign trail. I know that's not a winning strategy, but if you're gonna lose anyway, you might as well lose big.
P.S. The title for the movie is now "Gator Green", but it's the same movie as "Scales", so don't get all confused now.
So, we have a crazy. I love/hate crazies. This one is Mr. Vic Noto, who you may have seen in such films as "Street Trash" and not much else (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0636595/). According to his IMDB bio, he attended (several) colleges, but clearly from his email below it seems the man can barely read or write.
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I VIC NOTO wrote MOST of SCALES,I gave it it's title,the character RAY SCALES
and mist of the characters and Scenes I created. I have LEGAL PROOF of this
and Van bebber has acknowledged this in Voice/E-Mails. He's a DRUNk and aliat
and I suggest that YOU take this siye down,or face part of the legal
injuction coming.....Viv Noto...
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Dear Mr. Noto,
If you did or did not write Scales is completely irrelevant to us. You should a) take a spelling and grammar course, as your grammar and spelling is atrocious and b) look up some media law facts in the United States. Since you clearly don't know them, you cannot sue a news outlet (i.e. "us") over a story like this. You can only sue a news outlet if they commit libel, and if you look up the legal definition of libel, we have not committed it.
Now, if you had emailed us politely and explained the situation in well-phrased and polite English, I *may* have listened to your side of the story. You have threatened us with baseless legal action, so I politely bid you "good day" and to not bother us again. We will not be taking the article down.
PlanetFury.com - Because we are furious
We do not take kindly to idle legal threats from random douchebags who are not aware that you can't sue a website to take down a story because you don't like it. Take a law class, douche.
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We do not take kindly to idle legal threats from random douchebags who are not aware that you can't sue a website to take down a story because you don't like it. Take a law class, douche.
Well, isn't that exciting. Thanks for standing up for all of our rights, Heidi.
People who threaten lawsuits willy nilly should at least have a cursory understanding of law. Maybe it was my brother (or somebody else) that said they saw some lady threaten to sue Starbucks when they gave her the wrong drink or something. I was once at a computer store and a guy kept threatening to sue for false advertising because they were out of stock of a $4 flash drive that they were advertising. He was refusing to leave, saying he would either leave with the flash drive that they didn't have or his lawyers would be contacting them. It's not like there aren't 50,000 other flash drives there that do the exact same thing for around the same price, dickhead.
We do not take kindly to idle legal threats from random douchebags who are not aware that you can't sue a website to take down a story because you don't like it. Take a law class, douche.
There goes my plan to get rich by suing PF.
Wait...is it libel to call him a crazy? Maybe he was just drunk.
Wait...is it libel to call him a crazy? Maybe he was just drunk.
Anything that is opinion, such as "crazy, dumb, hysterical, stupid, creepy, scary, weird," etc. is always protected under free speech. To be sued for libel, you literally have to say something to the extent of, "Vic Noto is a child rapist who, on Saturday the 14th of 1996, raped three 8 year old boys". Something like that statement could be considered libel if it were stated as fact and we know it isn't true. However, using that statement as an example of libel also gets us off the libel hook even though I posted it publicly so search engines will totally pick it up. Because we know it's not true and are only using it as an example of what libel might look like if someone were to commit it.
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"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
I was looking at the trailer for the upcoming VanBebber documentary "Diary Of A Deadbeat" on YouTube and apparently Mr. Noto is posting similar things there in the comments section. The user's name is "UneXplodedFlatuance" (slick!!), but the subject matter, spelling issues, and random capitalization of words would lead me to believe it's the same guy (at least I hope it is...it scares me to think several people are out there randomly murdering English grammar like that).
It's amazing that people don't spell check for important shit like that.
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"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
Vic Noto is my friend,and these taunts are wrong. I did steal SCALES from
him,but he can't prove it. And he did not write to this site,you people are
idiots. JVB
How nice of Jim to defend Noto even though Jim openly admits stealing Scales!
Isn't it ODD that Jim, Stephen, AND Vic Noto ALL write the exact same way, use commas in an improper manner, and have terrible grammar? So odd. What a weird coincidence. Bad public school system?
I don't know why Noto thinks everyone is an idiot. Could it be that Noto himself is an idiot and is too stupid to understand that writing these emails is... stupid? Is there some kind of physics paradox happening in the Idiot/Time continuum?
And how funny that he hasn't figured out by now that were just going to keep posting his shit in here when he sends it.
Noto, ask yourself: "Who is the idiot here? Us, or You?" think about it really hard.
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"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
He's a busy little beaver. When I noticed his comments on that documentary trailer a while ago I went back a few times to see if he posted anything else. I noticed that half the comments left by people basically saying stuff like "I'm excited to see this" or something innocuous like that were blacked out "due to negative votes" or something similar. I'd wager that was his doing as well.
I'm an FB friend of VanBebber's and he addressed this a few days ago....so it'd be kind of odd that he'd send an email admitting to stealing something but defending the guy he stole it from!
hey im your husband triztan,im busy at work making the big money so you could do me favor okay.write chek for $5000 to Tomas Duke from are accountt,he is good guy need moneys for his chairity to save african babees,they are close to dead cause no food.please mail write away okay.also please dont talk about it to me when I come holmes from the work because the babeis dying is sad for me and I want happy watch of movie wehn I get homes and not sadnez from the ded babiees talk.
hey im your husband triztan,im busy at work making the big money so you could do me favor okay.write chek for $5000 to Tomas Duke from are accountt,he is good guy need moneys for his chairity to save african babees,they are close to dead cause no food.please mail write away okay.also please dont talk about it to me when I come holmes from the work because the babeis dying is sad for me and I want happy watch of movie wehn I get homes and not sadnez from the ded babiees talk.
I lovez you - tristaan senns, yuor husban
Well, that's awfully strange, but I guess if Tristan wants me to do it... ?
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"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
Yes, what Heidi dropped is what I was talking about. She was out when the message came in. The IP was from New Jersey - a Google told me Vic Noto is from that area, and Van Bebber isn't. Plus, it was just a ridiculous email that I couldn't imagine Van Bebber writing.
Mr. Noto is very persistent. Today we got a new email from one "duggery67@aol.com" (which is not a valid email address and with an IP address the same as the previous emails) that chastises us for our content on this page.
What is wrong with our public school system in this country? It seems like Mr. Fisk, like Mr Vanbebber AND Noto and Unearthedfilms all write exactly the same way: poorly. How sad!
I'm actually not sure Ms honeycutt what this page is about. it seems as if
it's purpose is to correct grammar,and who wrote a script and who didn't.
it's rather juvenile to say the least,I mean who cares.
Please state your purpose and get over yourself. I doubt you'd even print
this but hey,who knows?
Oh wait. That's just Vic Noto again. You'd think he'd get someone else to write the email so it doesn't read exactly the way he writes. But he's not that smart. Didn't fool us this time with your tried-and-true methods, Mr. Noto!
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"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
pleaase ignore vic noto as it is not he but i who have wrote about scales, i made the character and also suggested about the things in the movie,. vic noto only iwshes he might habve written a script as prowerful as mine is. also do not be fooled by his alter egos, i am ghostwriting them.
Vic Noto is harassing me because of this article. I want the world to know.
Writing at 8:14 PM on April 20th, 2012, Vic writes from proveit3000@yahoo.com (his email - go ahead, give him a shout) under the name "Lee Novak":
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In case you're CONFUSED...I wrote all these characters that went into WGA...I have 63 MORE Certified E-mails of MY writing of SCALES and Characters I've created and scenes,which comprises of MORE than 60% OF the work....Do you want me to rub your fucken nose in it BITCH?...
Next time....keep you trap shut regarding things you DON'T know!
Writing at 8:23 Pm on April 20th, 2012, he says:
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Yeah....You said...like a Whining bitch because you didn't know SHIT...What MORE do you want BITCH?
I emailed him back to let him know you can't "certify" emails through the United States Postal Service.
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"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
Well, Vic has a point. Could it be that these are all different people emailing me? at 8:45 PM April 20th, 2012 from "Lee Outlaw" (outlawlee43@yahoo.com) definitely NOT the same person as Lee Novak, of course, I get this:
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EVERY time some Idiot sends you a Comment on that STUPID Web site of yours....you go off that it's Vic Noto that's sending it....grow up Cunt,all this Bullshit about IPS address what the fuck are you talking about. It COULD be possible that not ALL your So-called "Readers" agree with everything you say,quit blaming my Buddy Vic Noto on YOUR problems.....and get wise....you're promoting a script that ISN'T fully owned by Vanbebber....smarten up,or be Prepared for a Lawsuit! And by the way....Vic digs all the Free Publicity! Somehow you think you're smarter than anyone you come in contact with....you double talk legal,Computer and just about ANY subject. Wake up...anyone who is **ACTUALLY** a Journalist has a PRESS CARD.....I guess you think that EVERYONE is as fucken STUPID and GULLIBLE as YOU are? And who the fuck is Douglas Fisk and HOW the fuck do you Construe him as Vic Noto? That page of yours REALLY is looking quite CHILDISH and as far as SCALES....ILLEGAL that YOU promote something you have no Legal hold on.....go back to writing LESBIAN MUFF DIVING articles!
He's definitely not the same person who wrote all the other emails.
And he's right - I need to stop making things up, Like "IP addresses". WTF is that? I totally made that up. That's more computer and.or legal double talk to make me sound smarter than Mr. Noto.
My press card, which was printed on sepia paper, burned down in the 1963 Compton riots, unfortunately.
I should have realized that Mr. Noto has a veritable army of followers who write and sound exactly the same was he does and who feel exactly the same way he does about this issue.
I also was not aware that by writing about a film that is on Kickstarter, I was committing an illegal act! Oh, the horror! It is, apparently, illegal to write about something if yo don't personally own it. I suggest Mr. Noto go write to People Magazine, The Huffington Post, The New York Times, Variety, and The Hollywood Reporter ASAP because they have been breaking this cryptic, but very serious, law for a very long time and they must be stopped.
I do want to take the time to thank Mr. Noto for his suggestion that I get back to my muff-diving fiction; I didn't think I was any good at it, but apparently he's a fan and thinks I should continue my work.
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"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
If you're not aware of the name Jim Van Bebber, you're unfortunately probably not aware that he directed and starred in the cult classic Deadbeat at Dawn (1988), a Peckinpah-esque white trash biker action flick filmed in the armpit of Dayton, Ohio (although in fairness, it appears that all of Dayton may qualify as an "armpit" based on the visual evidence presented in the film). I have seen many many biker films, and Deadbeat at Dawn might be my favorite (yes, I'd take it over Easy Rider and maybe even Wild Hogs). He also directed the well received although eternally-in-production Chuck Manson movie The Manson Family (2003), and a bunch of awesome shorts and music videos (like that amazing video for that Skinny Puppy song that I forget the name of). 
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So, we have a crazy. I love/hate crazies. This one is Mr. Vic Noto, who you may have seen in such films as "Street Trash" and not much else (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0636595/). According to his IMDB bio, he attended (several) colleges, but clearly from his email below it seems the man can barely read or write.
I VIC NOTO wrote MOST of SCALES,I gave it it's title,the character RAY SCALES
and mist of the characters and Scenes I created. I have LEGAL PROOF of this
and Van bebber has acknowledged this in Voice/E-Mails. He's a DRUNk and aliat
and I suggest that YOU take this siye down,or face part of the legal
injuction coming.....Viv Noto...
Dear Mr. Noto,
If you did or did not write Scales is completely irrelevant to us. You should a) take a spelling and grammar course, as your grammar and spelling is atrocious and b) look up some media law facts in the United States. Since you clearly don't know them, you cannot sue a news outlet (i.e. "us") over a story like this. You can only sue a news outlet if they commit libel, and if you look up the legal definition of libel, we have not committed it.
Now, if you had emailed us politely and explained the situation in well-phrased and polite English, I *may* have listened to your side of the story. You have threatened us with baseless legal action, so I politely bid you "good day" and to not bother us again. We will not be taking the article down.
PlanetFury.com - Because we are furious
We do not take kindly to idle legal threats from random douchebags who are not aware that you can't sue a website to take down a story because you don't like it. Take a law class, douche.
"Another great thing about being 70,000 light years away from the nearest Starfleet vessel is that once we finally get back to Earth, we can makeup bullshit stories. Off the top of my head: 'We met Amelia Earhart,' 'We singlehandedly eliminated most of the Borg fleet' or 'Paris and I turned into giant pink lizards and mated.'"
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