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Why 'The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo' Remake Poster Insults Everyone

So, why is Rooney Mara naked, and, like, Daniel Craig isn't?

Rooney Mara, as the "new" Lisbeth Salander, is prettier, sexier, and naked-er than her Swedish predecessor Noomi Rapace (who is actually Finnish, or something) is being sold to us 'Mericans because the assholes in marketing had some kind of table breakfast meeting where they discussed stuff that sounded like this:

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Frat Douche: I mean, Rooney Mara is hot, but she's all, like, emo'd out, or whatever it is. That's not sexy. Like, the guys at Sigma Kappa and I would totally not do her. In fact, we'd make fun of her.

Blond Person: I agree, we need to make her a little more accessible to the average American male - make her a little - I don't know - hotter. This whole movie is so "talky" and has such a complex plot. Can our viewers really understand stuff like that? No. The answer is no.

Frat Douche: Yeah. What we should do is make her blond and have her fuck a lot in the movie.

Hot Gay Guy In Marketing: Here's what we do: We put her naked on the poster! Dumb American men will see the movie even if she looks "different" because she's naked on the poster, and people will interpret the poster as "bold", even though we're pretty much saying that the only reason anyone should see the movie is because naked chicks!

Feminist: But isn't that blatant sexism?? I mean, why isn't Daniel Craig topless, too? There is sex in the movie, and there is nudity between the two characters, so I can get on board with a bold new approach to poster marketing... but why is she naked and he isn't?

Frat Douche: Because if he was naked that would be gay.

Feminist: And why is he protectively holding her when, in fact, in the story, she actually does an awful lot of protecting of him? It's sort of misleading and makes her seem like some kind of prostitute, or something, and isn't really relevant at all to the story or give a realistic indication of how the two characters interact...

Frat Douche and Blond Person: Ur so gay. All people who watch the movies we market are idiots. You have to put boobs on the poster or the men won't see it! And men are important.

Daniel Craig, who fills the role of journalist Mikael Blomkvist, originally played by the much-less-sexy Mikael Nyqvist (no offense to him), should be nude on the poster, too. The only reason he isn't is because straight men would go, "Fag!" and point at the poster. Or, at least, that's what the assholes in marketing think.

Are the assholes in marketing right? Would a poster that showed these two attractive people naked be somehow offensive to the average male movie viewer in The United States? Are women stupid enough to look at this poster and NOT recognize that the man is fully clothed, and will they not feel irked by that on a twofold level because 1) they'd like to see him naked and 2) they feel left out of the marketing plan for a film that arguable appeals equally to men and women as long as they enjoy a good thriller?

I know some pretty stupid people, but I'm willing to bet they underestimated the intelligence of men in America by making the blatant, sexist, retarded, and annoying decision to focus on the female sexuality inherent in Rooney Mara and to ignore Daniel Craig's, hoping that men won't be intimidated by his awesome, faggy abs and his musculature.


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I don't see his pose as protective so much as I do posessive; which does kind-of match his stalkery behavior in The Girl Who Played With Fire. The poster is definitely provocative, we're all talking about it for sure; though I'm still as confused as it (as you all have said) has no context whatsoever or much to do with the story aside from "Hell yeah, there's gonna be nekkid wimmins in the movie! And there better not be any subtitles!"

I also echo the sentiment of wanting a naked Daniel Craig poster with her arm clutched around his neck like that. What's good for the goose, aye wot? Grin

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Maybe this one will address the balance:

And no, I didn't make that.

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I thought this was supposed to be the teaser poster for Europe? That's what I heard through the grapevine, but more importantly I heard from someone who has read all 3 books, the "character" would never allow herself to be photographed nude like this (in real life, if she was indeed real). Haven't had the chance to read them myself, but either way it is a pretty ballsy promotion.

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Absolutely, I agree; unless her character regularly fights crime in the nude or is just so much of a sassy rebel she doesn't wear clothes at all, the poster doesn't relate to the film. Plus we all know from the Bond movies that the gorgeous Craig doesn't have a problem with partial nudity, so why can't we see him au naturel as well?

And in a nice bit of hypocrisy, this magazine cover has been covered up or banned outright in just about every major bookstore in the US:

Yep, it's that sexy troublemaker Andrej again; but seriously, this cover is less explicit than the poster, but since the model is a man, it's seen as not fit for public consumption. Sheesh.

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For a character who has been so systematically abused and has completely withdrawn from society I don't imagine she'd go around getting her bits out willy-nilly. She seems to spend the whole time hiding under her hair or a hoodie, so I guess there's a lot of self-loathing going on inside Lisbeth Salander.

I know Fincher has had big battles in the past for how his movies are marketed (FIGHT CLUB in particular) so I guess this must be authorised by him.

It's an odd angle for the publicity to take. It remains to be seen of there ends up being any legitimate context for it or if it's just a bit of shock marketing to get attention.

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Megan Hussey wrote:

Yep, it's that sexy troublemaker Andrej again; but seriously, this cover is less explicit than the poster, but since the model is a man, it's seen as not fit for public consumption. Sheesh.

Well, to be fair, I think if the poster with Rooney Mara topless was made into a book cover, it'd also be covered up in the great bulk of bookstores. This poster won't be displayed as is in most US locations. This is the edited version that is appearing online on sites such as IMDB, which does some semi-clever nipple blockage with the film's release date:

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I got a chance to check out the shipped copy of this poster at my theater last night, and I continue to be totally confused by this silly marketing tactic. The poster that we received is the one Tristan posted, but it also has a black and yellow sticker shouting THIS FILM IS NOT YET RATED just below the 12-21-11. It's angled so it would look like it's what is covering her nipples, though it took four seconds for those of us looking at it to go "wait how the hell would her tits have got down there?"

Add the fact that theaters in America can't even show the titted poster in the first place, and the whole thing just strikes me as one silly ploy to get people talking on the web....which, to be fair, we are.

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Add the fact that theaters in America can't even show the titted poster in the first place, and the whole thing just strikes me as one silly ploy to get people talking on the web....which, to be fair, we are.

This is correct, sir, lol. So, in a way, they did a GREAT job.

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One of the reasons I like this is that I think it is a little sad in our society that the sight of a topless woman is 'shocking' in any sense at all. I'm glad that this is being challenged. I want it to be challenged. I want our culture to lighten up about the female form and arguably this can only be done by forcing a 'challenging' exposure to it. Men have the legal right to be without a shirt - why not women? Frankly, I think it should be completely legal for a woman to be topless anywhere that it is legal for a man to be so undressed.

I do very much agree that it would have been much better if Daniel Craig was also shirtless; as has been pointed out, the two were also lovers at one point in the story, so it would be within context. That said, I think that such a poster's release is still interesting in its direct and obvious challenge to US cultural anxiety about a woman's bared breasts.

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You know the poster was David Fincher's idea? And he actually thought he wouldn't be able to use it because the studio would think it was too risqué. So your little sketch parody there is way off-base.

But the real problem here is your suggestion that Craig should be naked. That shows that you have no idea what the poster represents. This poster is not about Craig, because it is not about Blomkvist. It is about Salander. More specifically. It is about the emotional subtext in the relationship between Salander and Blomkvist, from Salander's perspective.

Blomkvist is an emotional imposition in his relationship with Salander. He is an odd intrusion into her life. As their relationship develops, despite her natural coldness, she begins to warm to him and she develops certain feelings that actually affect her core.

Take everything in the image to represent emotion. No one gets closer to Salander's naked (nude, bare) emotions than Blomkvist (even if he doesn't realize it). The grip of evil abusers may have Salander's life in a choke hold, but they don't even get a whiff of her emotions. Using the visual metaphor expressing emotion, this explains why Blomkvist's arm is the arm around her naked body. He is the only one who she even allows within arm's reach of her emotions.

But Salander's relationship with Blomkvist is not harmonious. He looks at her and sees only a damaged soul who needs to be shielded from those who wish to do her harm. But she sees him as a potential lover not a father. Maybe that is why her hand is tugging on his arm, maybe to pull it away. An expression of that emotional dis-unity. Because she feels that his presence can be suffocating. Even if he doesn't directly impose himself, the affect he is having on her emotions almost feels like he is choking her.

Maybe she wants to stand beside him, not before him.

In short, the image captures spirituality not corporeality.

Now, why is Salander's nudity more than cheap exploitation? It's because it is an accurate representation of the character's open sexuality, with the abstract enhancement of the aforementioned emotional subtext.

Salander is the girl who was tormented by sex in many aspects of her life. But what did she do with that pain? She embraced it. She used it as a way to rebel and gain her own independence. She flaunted her sexuality because, in the face of those who wanted to exploit it to keep her pinned down, her decision to be open about it had a subversive effect. It showed that she would not be controlled by their sexual abuse and it diffused the oppressive power that sex once held over her.

Salander doesn't care what you think about her nudity or sexuality. She only considers what she thinks about it. That is virtually the definition of sexual independence. And it happens to be a very pro-feminist message. Again, that is what I think is conveyed by the nudity in the poster and that is why I think it IS consistent with the themes of the character.

Your problem may be your own misinterpretation of the themes and your attempt to pigeonhole Salander into a conventionally feminist ideal. She's anything but that.

Now please. Can we spend time analyzing deeper before posting knee-jerk reactions? I am not the biggest David Fincher fan, but he is not a director who uses cheap gimmicks for a fast buck. He appears to be striving for something artistically progressive here and I'm sure it would be more beneficial to the discussion if we all treated it that way, even if there are gripes and disagreements.

Edit - And I apologize if this post sounds antagonistic at all.

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Awesome post Spriggan1!

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Here's a photo of one of my favorite models, Marcel Castenmiller (also a gifted photographer and from what I've gathered a wonderful person and a good sport, and I say this part sincerely), naked. Oh, but there's so much more to it than that! In this photo we sense Marcel's deep inner turmoil; he is obviously so affected by life's unfairness that he has collapsed in bed, and his seductive pout is really a cry for help. And when ladies stare gape mouthed at this photo we are not lusting after him (so you boys hold off with your knee jerk reactions! How dare you have an opinion and express it publicly!), we feel for him and comprehend his plight!

Look, I'm sorry if I come off as a biatch (wouldn't be the first time though, it's a refined art!) Both Marcel's photo and the Girl and the Dragon Tattoo are artistically beautiful, not cheap or obscene. The point is that one would probably never see this picture on a movie poster, or see it widely distributed, because it involves a beautiful young male laying partially nude beneath a portrait of an authoritative looking, fully clothed woman. But we see the reverse all the time, and if a feminist dares to speak her mind about it (not censor, set fire to or tear it down) we're automatically knee jerk feminazis who don't see the deeper artistic meaning.

And I'll add the same caveat here: I love everyone here and am not trying to start a fight. But I do take issue with the concept that someone can't offer a first impression to a piece of art--people do that all the time when they visit galleries.

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Look, I'm sorry if I come off as a biatch (wouldn't be the first time though, it's a refined art!) Both Marcel's photo and the Girl and the Dragon Tattoo are artistically beautiful, not cheap or obscene. The point is that one would probably never see this picture on a movie poster, or see it widely distributed, because it involves a beautiful young male laying partially nude beneath a portrait of an authoritative looking, fully clothed woman. But we see the reverse all the time, and if a feminist dares to speak her mind about it (not censor, set fire to or tear it down) we're automatically knee jerk feminazis who don't see the deeper artistic meaning.

The argument you are presenting here is different from that of the article. What you seem to be expressing is frustration at the broader trend in which female sexuality through physical objectification is disproportionately exploited compared to men, regardless of case by case justification.

Though I do have a few counterpoints, to keep things simple, let's just say I concede to that. In fact I have written an article exploring an identical idea.
ononyeui.wordpress.com/2011/05/01/feisty-new-females-feign-feminism/
Even though I have spent time on this board explaining why Salander on her own is pro-feminist, in this article I actually label her a pseudo feminist in the context of a broader trend. You've incorrectly assumed that I consider critics to be a "feminazis" but I was actually called a "neo-feminist" for that article. Basically, I'm just establishing that I am more than aware of the nuance in the argument. (I should also clarify that I'm not a professional writer by any means.)

Anyway, the problem I have with this movie poster article is that the writer displayed no acknowledgment of what the poster might be attempting to achieve. Her contention that Craig should have been naked shows clear misunderstanding of the poster's meaning. What she offered was a very shallow interpretation and concluded that the nudity was unjustified. You say that's ok. But there was no disclaimer of a "first impression" and no articulation of diverted focus to a broader trend. This was an outright, and presumably permanent, dismissal of the work combined with pejorative inferences about the intent of the creators.

Of course, she has the right to do that. But then I have the same right to criticize it with my personal opinion and maybe offer something deeper.

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"For a character who has been so systematically abused and has completely withdrawn from society I don't imagine she'd go around getting her bits out willy-nilly. She seems to spend the whole time hiding under her hair or a hoodie..."

EXACTLY!

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spriggan1 wrote:

You know the poster was David Fincher's idea?

I admit to not knowing its history, but this article seems to support this statement:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/david-fincher-wants-the-girl-with-the-drago...

I wish I could hear more on the creation of the poster itself. Spriggan1's breakdown of the overall metaphor hidden within the posturing is rather excellent and pretty hard to contest; if Fincher himself directed the photo session, he very well may be correct. I don't really think anything in the photo is an accident, nor do I think it the poster was fueled only by base and shallow thoughts.

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Edit - And I apologize if this post sounds antagonistic at all.

You're doing fine - we do encourage people to challenge each others articles in a productive way, which is exactly what you're doing. No one ever has to agree with anything we ever write. It helps to build good conversation. Wink

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Hey spriggan! I think you have a really interesting alternate reading of the poster. It definitely can be interpreted that way.

I don't really agree with that reading, though, even if Fincher deliberately wanted it to be read that way.

Despite all of the underlying intentions, when I look at the poster I see a nude woman and a fully clothed man. I would prefer both be nude. any intentions beneath the art of the poster don't really change that for me, and I don't see Lisbeth being naked as the most intelligent or interesting way to represent her character.

To believe that Fincher is concerned solely with the underlying artistic interpretation of Lisbeth Salander's character and not at all with the marketing of the movie and the intrinsic value of showing a nude woman to a world of straight male moviegoers is to deliberately ignore a valuable aspect of the movie industry, marketing, and of being a successful Hollywood film director. I think we need to look at all aspects of this, not just the underlying art, and to take into consideration the way straight female audiences see this poster.

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Superheidi wrote:

Hey spriggan! I think you have a really interesting alternate reading of the poster. It definitely can be interpreted that way.

I don't really agree with that reading, though, even if Fincher deliberately wanted it to be read that way.

Despite all of the underlying intentions, when I look at the poster I see a nude woman and a fully clothed man. I would prefer both be nude. any intentions beneath the art of the poster don't really change that for me, and I don't see Lisbeth being naked as the most intelligent or interesting way to represent her character.

To believe that Fincher is concerned solely with the underlying artistic interpretation of Lisbeth Salander's character and not at all with the marketing of the movie and the intrinsic value of showing a nude woman to a world of straight male moviegoers is to deliberately ignore a valuable aspect of the movie industry, marketing, and of being a successful Hollywood film director. I think we need to look at all aspects of this, not just the underlying art, and to take into consideration the way straight female audiences see this poster.

I agree, and that's what I was trying to say in my post, though it may have come off snarky. It was not my intention to be rude or unwelcoming to the OP.

As an erotica author, most of my covers feature scantily clad men--I've had three occasions in which publishers suggested semi-nude female covers and I rejected them all. It's not because I find the female body dirty but it seems like--whenever someone makes a statement about sexuality, sexual mores, etc.--they use a nude female to symbolize those ideas. A nude male--even when he's posed with a nude female--is seen as homosexual, or as threatening to other men.

It seems to me that if the Dragon Tattoo gal was really trying to seize control of her sexuality, she'd insist that Craig's character get naked with her; at least that's the excuse I'd use Wink

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To believe that Fincher is concerned solely with the underlying artistic interpretation of Lisbeth Salander's character and not at all with the marketing of the movie and the intrinsic value of showing a nude woman to a world of straight male moviegoers is to deliberately ignore a valuable aspect of the movie industry, marketing, and of being a successful Hollywood film director. I think we need to look at all aspects of this, not just the underlying art, and to take into consideration the way straight female audiences see this poster.

I'm not claiming that Fincher is solely interested in the deeper artistic interpretation with the poster. I just felt I had to highlight that element because, to me, your post seemed to be completely neglecting it, and showed virtually no awareness of the possibility.

I think Fincher was aware of the marketing angle. But he may have seen a way to deliver something provocative while also highlighting the essence of Salander in a creative way. In this case, the appeal is a byproduct and no sacrilege was committed in the process imo.

But in regards to your criticism... I think it's disingenuous to extract one component of the image, ignore the others and then use that component to completely and unreservedly condemn it as a whole. Though, it is your right.

And I still disagree that Craig should be naked. Yes I think society's reservations about male nudity are hypocritical, and that artists and filmmakers should not feel the need to exclude male nudity as much as they do. But I disagree with the implementation of nudity simply for the sake of balanced appeal. Especially if it's not artistically justified, which I don't think it is in this case.

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But I disagree with the implementation of nudity simply for the sake of balanced appeal. Especially if it's not artistically justified, which I don't think it is in this case.

See, my problem is that I don't feel there is artistic justification for Salander being naked. I feel like the explanations given by Fincher, as you related them and in the article, are, well, kinda arty farty bullshit. I think the dominant reading, which is the one most people will have who have no idea what Fincher's intentions were, is that "the chick is going to get sexy in the movie."

Fincher did a poor job of expressing what he wanted to express, and I sincerely think there are probably far better, more intelligent, and less totally random ways to artistically create Salander on that poster.

If Fincher can justify why she should be nude, then Megan and I can totally come up with our own arty-farty take on why Craig should be nude, too: Salander's need to feel equal sexually, Salander's closeness to him, his ability to open up emotionally to her, etc. I can come up with a million, and they are all just as valid as Fincher's. Unfortunately, he's the guy with the control and I'm an audience member. I just think this poster is a cheap attempt at getting people interested and I really am not sure I buy the underlying artistic sensibilities. It's a matter of opinion, but that is totally my opinion.

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Superheidi wrote:
spriggan1 wrote:

But I disagree with the implementation of nudity simply for the sake of balanced appeal. Especially if it's not artistically justified, which I don't think it is in this case.

See, my problem is that I don't feel there is artistic justification for Salander being naked. I feel like the explanations given by Fincher, as you related them and in the article, are, well, kinda arty farty bullshit. I think the dominant reading, which is the one most people will have who have no idea what Fincher's intentions were, is that "the chick is going to get sexy in the movie."

Fincher did a poor job of expressing what he wanted to express, and I sincerely think there are probably far better, more intelligent, and less totally random ways to artistically create Salander on that poster.

If Fincher can justify why she should be nude, then Megan and I can totally come up with our own arty-farty take on why Craig should be nude, too: Salander's need to feel equal sexually, Salander's closeness to him, his ability to open up emotionally to her, etc. I can come up with a million, and they are all just as valid as Fincher's. Unfortunately, he's the guy with the control and I'm an audience member. I just think this poster is a cheap attempt at getting people interested and I really am not sure I buy the underlying artistic sensibilities. It's a matter of opinion, but that is totally my opinion.

Yes, I agree; in a situation in which she is assuming control of her body and sexuality, she would demand that he stand on equal ground, and be just as 'bare' to her as she is to him.

On a related note; I was just on my friend David Decoteau's Yahoo! message board; Dave, of course, is the out director who fills his horror and suspense movies with images of shirtless and semi-nude young hunks. Dave has posted the tagline a 'horror movie for girls' on his latest series of 1313 movies (actually, he's been doing that off and on for years), and as a result, some gay males are refusing to buy his movies--joining some straight males who have refused all along because they don't want to see hot, semi nude men.

I tell ya, Ladies, we just can't win...

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Megan Hussey wrote:

On a related note; I was just on my friend David Decoteau's Yahoo! message board; Dave, of course, is the out director who fills his horror and suspense movies with images of shirtless and semi-nude young hunks. Dave has posted the tagline a 'horror movie for girls' on his latest series of 1313 movies (actually, he's been doing that off and on for years), and as a result, some gay males are refusing to buy his movies--joining some straight males who have refused all along because they don't want to see hot, semi nude men.

I tell ya, Ladies, we just can't win...

I'm continue to find the entire male attitude towards male nudity in movies rather silly. I've enjoyed plenty of genre films, from Pieces (classic cheese) to Planet of the Apes (yes, Charlton Heston's bare butt caused a stir in the day) to Color of Night (OMG, Bruce Willis showed his wiener!), yet I don't feel my sexuality was threatened in any way. Okay, the Jeepers Creepers movies kind of left a bad taste in my mouth, but only because of the director, not the shirtless hunks.

And I'm rather shocked that gay men won't buy a horror film with "hot, semi nude men" in it just because the director says it's a "horror movie for girls."

Come on, guys. It's just another human body. If you're turned on by male nudity, great. Have fun and support filmmakers that include it, as you'll get more of it through your financial support. If you're threatened by male nudity, well, you've got some issues to get over.

As for the poster in question, I can't say whether the characters fit the photograph or not, having not seen the films or read the books. But I continue to believe the poster is serving its purpose, by getting people to discuss the film long before it's release.

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Salander's need to feel equal sexually, Salander's closeness to him, his ability to open up emotionally to her, etc

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Yes, I agree; in a situation in which she is assuming control of her body and sexuality, she would demand that he stand on equal ground, and be just as 'bare' to her as she is to him.

Maybe this is where my gap of delusion reveals itself, but I thought my interpretation was a bit less far fetched. I can barely understand what either of you are saying in your readings as it relates to the book. What Salander needs/demands to feel doesn't change the reality of what Blomkvist actually offers. I thought I articulated my interpretation with clear evidence from the book to back it up. Again, maybe I am just delusional. But think a poster based on a book is a bit less subjective than a standalone piece of art (though it is still very subjective).

I was bringing up a consistent theme of emotion, and I'd expect Blomkvist to be clothed because he was much more emotionally guarded. Not just because he was a mature adult, but he had a sort of chronic ambivalence with all his partners and it manifested itself in his inability to commit. When he and Lisbeth dissolved their relationship at the end of the first book, she was the one who was emotionally scarred, while he had clearly moved on. And she was scarred because she had been exposed (naked) and vulnerable. He had not.

Anyway, as you guys have pointed out, it is just a personal opinion (a truly personal opinion, because Fincher has offered no explanation of the poster that I am aware of. I just said the poster was his idea. I don't want to mislead people).

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I think the dominant reading, which is the one most people will have who have no idea what Fincher's intentions were, is that "the chick is going to get sexy in the movie."

Inquiring audiences who look at the poster as an introduction to the story will not be able to pinpoint the intricacies of the emotional subtext. What they will get is a snapshot of the subtext. In the same way a gun and a few bullet holes on a poster gives a flavor of the genre without revealing the details of the plot; naked Salander and shadow Blomkvist gives a flavor of the subtext. On the receptive end, audiences can interpret it however they wish.

But I'm not naive. I'm sure Fincher was aware that the dominant reading could be reductive (though not quite as reductive as you have pointed out). And yes it's a reductive reading that helps rather than hurts, because it also contains sexual appeal. But that should have very little bearing on what an artist wants to express, or making an inference on what the artist wants to express. And anyway, there will be more material that will offer more literal samples of the story, like a full length trailer.

Ultimately I think the poster does work beautifully, and I do think there is purity of artistic ambition as well as artistic justification (clearly a point we won't agree on), which is what made me take issue with the original article. I'm happy that the poster exists, not because I find it sexy, but because there's a lot to draw from and connect to the book. And I know there are males and females who feel the same way about it.

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Megan Hussey wrote:

On a related note; I was just on my friend David Decoteau's Yahoo! message board; Dave, of course, is the out director who fills his horror and suspense movies with images of shirtless and semi-nude young hunks. Dave has posted the tagline a 'horror movie for girls' on his latest series of 1313 movies (actually, he's been doing that off and on for years), and as a result, some gay males are refusing to buy his movies--joining some straight males who have refused all along because they don't want to see hot, semi nude men.

I tell ya, Ladies, we just can't win...

I'm continue to find the entire male attitude towards male nudity in movies rather silly. I've enjoyed plenty of genre films, from Pieces (classic cheese) to Planet of the Apes (yes, Charlton Heston's bare butt caused a stir in the day) to Color of Night (OMG, Bruce Willis showed his wiener!), yet I don't feel my sexuality was threatened in any way. Okay, the Jeepers Creepers movies kind of left a bad taste in my mouth, but only because of the director, not the shirtless hunks.

And I'm rather shocked that gay men won't buy a horror film with "hot, semi nude men" in it just because the director says it's a "horror movie for girls."

Come on, guys. It's just another human body. If you're turned on by male nudity, great. Have fun and support filmmakers that include it, as you'll get more of it through your financial support. If you're threatened by male nudity, well, you've got some issues to get over.

Very well said, Chris; in my response on Dave's message board, I also pointed out that so much visual erotica is produced for men, straight and gay, and so little is made for women; in addition, in a genre such as horror films, in which naked, powerless and often tortured women are too often the norm, Dave Decoteau is a breath of fresh air--offering strong female characters and hot men!

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I don't find Rooney Mara any more attractive than the actress in the Swedish films.

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