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Stallone Says 'The Expendables 2' Will Be Rated R, but Why Should Anyone Care?

Movieweb reported that The Expendables 2 will now carry an R rating, according to an interview with Sylvester Stallone. And I really couldn't care less.

For those of you who missed it, Chuck Norris was quoted a few months ago saying that the film would carry a PG-13 rating, as he doesn’t act in R-rated films. Okay, it’s obvious he’s forgotten about all his movies from the early '70s, but I guess taking a few too many punches to the head might do that. Still, Stallone did confirm the youth-oriented rating, causing the Internet to let loose the roar of disappointed fans everywhere.

But now Stallone has stated that the upcoming sequel will be rated R. So everyone simmer down and be sure to go see it on August 17. And I’m sure a lot of "fans" of '80s action flicks are breathing a sigh of relief, assuming they'll get a dose of hardcore violence and mayhem.

Well, forgive me if I don't get too excited, because the original Expendables wasn’t anything like the '80s action flicks I remember. Aside from a nasty knife wound during the start of the final fight sequence, the film looked more like an episode of The A-Team than the action films of three decades ago.

Look, action films back then were brutal. People lost limbs, the sides of their heads exploded after being hit with explosive tipped arrow. Bad guys were impaled with pipes, swords and chainsaws, choked with barbwire, soaked in toxic sludge and liquefied on screen or perforated with enough bullets to kill an elephant. And let’s not talk about heroes who cauterized wounds with gunpowder just before battle. The Expendables pales in comparison to the mayhem unleashed back then, and I should know because I saw a lot of classic action films in the theaters.

One of the few recent films that recalls the heyday of '80s actions movies is Stallone’s Rambo, in which the final battle starts with the hero turning a truck-mounted machine gun on the driver, reducing him to red pudding. And that’s before he turns the gun on the rest of the enemy army, sawing them (in some cases, literally) in half. If you don’t believe me, check out this clip. And it’s most definitely NSFW!

Other than Shoot ‘Em Up, few films really capture the essence of an '80s action film like John Rambo. Dodgy CGI aside, this film captured the energy and visceral impact that The Expendables lacked.

And let's not forget, Norris was concerned with the amount of foul language, not the violence in E2. So all Stallone wants to do is add in a few F-bombs and call it good. No increased mayhem, no additional CGI blood; just a few words that will cause the MPAA to slap the film with an R rating. And, based on the harsh reaction to the documentary film Bully, it shouldn't be too hard for Stallone to earn an R rating.

But fans are delusional if they expect more mayhem on the screen. Just watch cable television and one can see the only way to earn an R rating now is through graphic language or flashing some bare flesh on the screen (okay, bare breasts; it appears a penis will likely get you an NC-17). So an R-rated action film in 2012 isn't like one from the '80s, where filmmakers pushed the boundaries of onscreen mayhem and were forced to trim scenes to avoid an X rating. Whatever Stallone puts on the screen on August 12 will likely pale in comparison to the real thing, even if you count the F-bombs.


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Stop being a hater. The first Expendables was awesome '80s action and so was Rambo. The wife and I will be first in line to see the sequel.

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I, too, was a bit disappointed in THE EXPENDABLES. It wasn't bad but I was hoping it'd be more of a 'team' film, instead of just Statham and Stallone for the majority of the running time.

I'm glad the second one is being rated R. What would be the point of it otherwise?

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DSCohen wrote:

Stop being a hater. The first Expendables was awesome '80s action and so was Rambo.

Rambo was great; The Expendables was poorly written crap. I wish it was as good as Rambo. Tongue

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DSCohen wrote:

Stop being a hater. The first Expendables was awesome '80s action and so was Rambo. The wife and I will be first in line to see the sequel.

The Expendibles just didn't work for me, as an action film or a revival of 80s action flicks. But my problem with the ratings update on the sequel is that it appears a few swear words are the only thing needed to take the film out of PG-13 territory. Doesn't sound like an 80s action flick to me.

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Is there no review of The Expendables 2 on this site? Maybe I'm not searching right.

Either way, I'm off to see it this evening.

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The best part of the Expendables was the AA-12 shotgun.

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Well folks, it was awesome. That's my review.

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It'll be a Day Two Review - I'll have something up within 24 hours (likely sooner). Coffee

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Gore Gore Girl wrote:

Well folks, it was awesome. That's my review.

Gonna take a bit more to convince me to see this in the theaters. :-)

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^ I'm not in the business of convincing. If you don't want to see it, then it's probably not for you. I will say this though - I thought the first one sucked. This movie is what I wish the first one had been. It's funny, silly, outrageous, goofy, super violent, and adorable.

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I didn't like the first one either, as I felt it feel short of the basic idea of 80s action films. Too much of Mickey Rourke philosophizing and not enough outrageous, bloody violence.

I'll catch the sequel at some point.

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Gore Gore Girl wrote:

^ I'm not in the business of convincing. If you don't want to see it, then it's probably not for you. I will say this though - I thought the first one sucked. This movie is what I wish the first one had been. It's funny, silly, outrageous, goofy, super violent, and adorable.

Well, that's encouraging. I really liked Rambo but not the 1st Expendables.

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I wasn't keen on Rambo. I think Stallone is a shitty action director. He pretty much fucked up the first Expendables (*love* him as an actor and writer). With Simon West directing, you can see the action sequences (gasp!), there are no extreme close ups of faces/watery eyeballs, and there is a sense of humour and self-deprecation throughout. The cast is on shine. Sly is charismatic and full of world-weary charm, Dolph becomes the comic relief, JCVD is flamboyant and eeeevil. It's played for laughs, and there are weird moments where it's like "Are they doing this on purpose...?" and turns out they are. The violence/action is also hilarious in that "ohmygod! bahahaha!" sort of way. Exploding heads, and two-person choreographed knife throwings, and whatnot. I was fully prepared to like it in spite of it, if that makes sense - just an opportunity to see all my favourites, with JCVD added on for good measure (I was pretty much in it for him). Y'know, like the first one. I didn't expect to *actually* have a fucking blast and see all my dreams come true. The cinema was in giggles the entire time. It was a riot. I was beside myself with glee.

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